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Supreme Stakes: The Battle Over Concealed Carry and State Defiance

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May 13, 2025 13 Minutes Read

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Here’s a curveball: a legal squabble in Hawaii might reshape how millions of Americans experience their rights. I remember chatting with a lifelong New Yorker last fall who felt blindsided when she learned she couldn’t rely on her state’s gun permit if she visited California or Hawaii. Now, with the DOJ, the Trump administration, and 25 states piling on, that sense of legal whiplash has become a national spectacle. Let’s untangle the drama that’s now landed on the Supreme Court’s doorstep (and, I’ll admit, why it’s hard not to watch like it’s a primetime legal thriller).

The State Patchwork and the Concealed Carry Labyrinth

Ever tried navigating a maze blindfolded? That's essentially what gun owners face when traveling across state lines with their firearms. The dramatic differences between state gun laws create a legal minefield that even the most law-abiding citizens struggle to navigate.

A Tale of Two Americas

Imagine living in Montana or Texas, where concealed carry permits are readily available and widely respected. Now cross into California, New York, or Hawaii, and suddenly you might become an accidental criminal.

A friend of mine learned this the hard way. Having flown countless times with his properly secured firearm and valid permit from his home state, he found himself surrounded by airport security in California. His crime? Not realizing his out-of-state permit held no value in the Golden State. What followed was hours of confusion, panic, and nearly missing his flight—all because state laws don't play nice with each other.

These ever-shifting rules have created a surge in accidental "lawbreakers" who cross state lines unaware of the legal transformation that occurs when they do.

The Numbers Tell the Story

Perhaps the most shocking example comes from Hawaii. Before the Supreme Court's Bruen decision, Hawaii operated as a "may issue" state. But as noted by the Ninth Circuit in 2018, Hawaii had issued only four concealed carry licenses to private citizens in the past 18 years. Even more startling—some counties never issued a single permit.

This wasn't "may issue" in practice; it was effectively "no issue."

"Bruin recognized that an ordinary law-abiding citizen has a general right to public carry arms for self-defense."

Yet despite this clear Supreme Court direction, states like Hawaii continue to resist through creative new restrictions.

The Resistance Movement

Following the Bruen decision, Hawaii passed new laws that essentially tried to maintain their ban through different means. Their approach? Creating a default rule where individuals can only carry firearms on private property if the owner provides express permission.

Think about what that means in practice. You'd need written permission from every store, restaurant, and business you enter. Practically impossible.

California's SB2 and similar laws in New York and New Jersey follow the same playbook—technical compliance with Bruen while effectively maintaining the ban through impossible hoops to jump through.

The Pushback

The growing frustration with this state defiance has led to unprecedented alignment among conservative states. In a remarkable show of unity, 25 states joined an amicus brief to the Supreme Court, calling for intervention against what they see as clear defiance of constitutional rights.

Montana, Idaho, Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Florida—the list goes on—have all called for the Supreme Court to finally take action and stop the active defiance of lower courts and certain states.

For travelers and residents alike, these state-based restrictions create profound legal uncertainty. You could be law-abiding in the morning, cross a state line for lunch, and become a potential criminal by afternoon—all without changing your behavior.

This patchwork approach to constitutional rights raises a critical question: Should your Second Amendment protections really depend on which side of a state line you happen to be standing?


Supreme Court Showdown: From Bruin to Hawaii – and the Stakes for America

The Second Amendment landscape is shifting beneath our feet. Right now, the Hawaii Wolver v. Lopez case sits at the Supreme Court's doorstep as an emergency petition that could reshape gun rights across America.

A Battle Over Hawaii's Concealed Carry Restrictions

Remember Bruin? That landmark Supreme Court decision was supposed to cement the Second Amendment as equal to other constitutional rights. But some states had other ideas.

After Bruin, Hawaii passed Act 52, overhauling its carry laws with restrictions even more severe than before. Like New York, they implemented an incredibly restrictive permit process that effectively nullifies citizens' right to carry.

When challenged, a district court temporarily blocked Hawaii's private property rule, saying it likely violated the Second Amendment. But then something predictable happened:

  • The Ninth Circuit stepped in
  • Reversed the injunction
  • Upheld Hawaii's sweeping restrictions

The Ninth Circuit somehow justified a statewide concealed carry ban by referencing... old hunting restrictions. Yes, really.

Why This Case Is Both Urgent and Messy

Here's where things get complicated. The case sits in what legal experts call an "interlocutory posture" – dealing with a preliminary injunction rather than a final ruling on merits.

This technical detail normally makes Supreme Court review unlikely. These procedural stages rarely attract SCOTUS attention in Second Amendment cases, even though the Court regularly steps in at similar stages for other constitutional rights.

But something unprecedented has happened.

25 States Join the Department of Justice

For the first time since Bruin, we're seeing massive coordinated pressure on the Supreme Court. The DOJ, Attorney General Bondi, and the Trump administration have filed briefs supporting this challenge.

"These 25 states have joined with the Trump administration to call for the Supreme Court to finally take action."

These states include Montana, Idaho, Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, and 18 others (plus the Arizona legislature). They're making a powerful argument:

"Bruin reassured law-abiding gun owners that the Second Amendment was no longer a second-class right. But lower courts have largely failed to follow through on that promise."

They warn that without intervention, Bruin becomes "an empty promise with no teeth."

The Legal Journey So Far

Let's track how we got here:

  1. District court issues temporary restraining order
  2. Order converts to preliminary injunction
  3. Ninth Circuit reverses, upholding Hawaii's restrictions
  4. Plaintiffs request rehearing, denied (with six judges dissenting)
  5. Emergency petition to Supreme Court

In their brief, the federal government argues Hawaii's "near-complete ban is flatly inconsistent with Bruin." They even suggest it's time for the Court to review rifle and magazine bans too.

With this unprecedented support from the administration and majority of states, the chances of Supreme Court intervention have significantly increased – even at this preliminary stage.

The stakes couldn't be higher. Will the Court finally address state defiance of Bruin, or allow lower courts to continue undermining Second Amendment protections?


Law, Loyalty, and Defiance: When States Go Rogue (and When SCOTUS Gets Mad)

Have you ever wondered what happens when states decide Supreme Court rulings are more like suggestions than commands? We're witnessing this drama unfold in real time with concealed carry laws.

The Defiance Playbook

Following the Supreme Court's Bruin decision, something remarkable happened. Instead of falling in line, several states decided to get creative. Really creative.

Hawaii, California, New York, and New Jersey have been crafting workarounds that technically acknowledge Bruin while effectively gutting its impact. It's like telling someone "yes, you can drive your car" but then removing all the roads.

Take Hawaii's approach. Their "private property default rule" essentially declares most locations off-limits for concealed carry unless explicitly permitted otherwise. The result?

"The private property default rule in Hawaii effectively nullifies the second amendment rights of Hawaiians and has no grounding in the historical record."

That's not from gun rights activists but from Judge Van Djk and five other dissenting judges in the Ninth Circuit. When six federal judges call out your law as effectively nullifying constitutional rights, you might be pushing boundaries a bit too far.

Heating Rhetoric and Emergency Appeals

The situation has become so contentious that 25 states joined forces to file briefs supporting emergency review by SCOTUS. Their message wasn't subtle:

  • Bruin promised the Second Amendment would no longer be treated as a "secondass right"
  • Lower courts are using "manipulative practices" and "ahistorical interpretations"
  • Without intervention, Bruin risks becoming "little more than an empty promise"

These aren't minor technical complaints. They're accusations that courts and states are deliberately subverting constitutional rulings through legal sleight-of-hand.

The phrase "lower court defiance" keeps appearing in DOJ complaints and supporting briefs. It's a serious charge that suggests not just disagreement but active resistance to established precedent.

The What-If Scenario

Here's a thought experiment: What if California and New York suddenly changed course? What if they embraced shall-issue policies overnight?

Would gun rights advocates celebrate victory and move on? Or would we simply see the battlefield shift to different aspects of regulation - magazine capacity, ammunition restrictions, or training requirements?

This standoff isn't just about guns. It reveals deeper questions about federalism and judicial authority. When does creative legal interpretation become outright defiance? At what point should SCOTUS step in to enforce its rulings?

The Stakes Ahead

If the Supreme Court doesn't intervene, states will likely continue pushing boundaries. Each restriction chips away at constitutional protections while testing the limits of judicial patience.

The current patchwork creates confusion for law-abiding gun owners and uncertainty about which constitutional rights remain protected across state lines.

And perhaps most concerning - it establishes a playbook for states to essentially nullify other constitutional rights they find inconvenient through similar creative legislative approaches.

You're watching more than a legal debate. This is a stress test of our entire constitutional system.


Strange Bedfellows: The DOJ, Trump Team, and 25 States Unite

Politics makes strange bedfellows, they say. And nowhere is this more evident than in the latest legal battle over concealed carry rights. Former rivals are now standing shoulder to shoulder, co-signing the same court briefs in a twist that's generating more headlines than the actual law at stake.

An Unexpected Alliance Forms

In what can only be described as a rare burst of bipartisanship (or perhaps opportunism?), the Department of Justice and Trump administration officials have aligned on a distinctly pro-Second Amendment cause. This unusual coalition now includes:

  • The Department of Justice
  • Former Attorney General Bondi
  • The Trump administration
  • Legislatures from 25 states plus Arizona

Yes, you read that right. The DOJ is actively supporting a lawsuit challenging state carry bans. They've filed an amicus brief arguing that these restrictions violate the precedent set in the Bruin decision.

Why This Matters

The federal government stepping in significantly increases the likelihood that the Supreme Court will grant review to this case. It's a major development that signals shifting priorities in how Second Amendment cases are being approached.

Their central message? If SCOTUS remains silent, states will continue "bending and twisting the Bruin rationale" to limit carry rights however they see fit.

"If you do not take this case and potentially others like it to correct all this lower court defiance... Bruin becomes an empty promise with no teeth."

The brief doesn't pull punches. It even sneaks in a pointed jab about Supreme Court inaction on rifle and magazine bans, suggesting it's time for the Court to address those issues as well.

Breaking Protocol

What makes this case particularly interesting is the DOJ's argument that this challenge deserves review even at its current preliminary stage.

Typically, the Supreme Court exercises caution, preferring to wait until cases reach their final judgments. But the government argues that Second Amendment cases should receive the same treatment as other constitutional matters where the Court has intervened earlier in the process.

The brief states that the "near-complete ban is flatly inconsistent with Brewan and the long history underlying it." It further emphasizes that ordinary law-abiding citizens have a general right to carry arms in public for self-defense.

The Odds Are Changing

With both the DOJ and 25 states filing briefs supporting review, the chances of the Supreme Court taking up this case have significantly improved. The conservative justices now have a stronger signal from the administration and a majority of states that this issue requires their immediate attention.

Will this unusual alliance be enough to convince the Court to break its pattern of avoiding preliminary injunction cases involving the Second Amendment? The legal landscape might be shifting before our eyes.

You're witnessing a remarkable convergence of interests that could fundamentally reshape how Second Amendment rights are protected across the country.


What Happens Next? Betting on the Court and the Country's Future Direction

The Supreme Court's decision process isn't always clear to most Americans. Let me break this down for you: for the Court to even consider hearing this concealed carry case, at least 4 justices must agree it's worth their time. But here's the catch - in reality, you need 5-6 justices on board.

Why? Because as one expert notes:

"Are there going to be enough justices on the Supreme Court who look at this issue, look at the lower court defiance and say, 'Yes, we need to finally address this.'"

The Numbers Game

The math matters tremendously here:

  • 4 votes - Minimum needed to grant review (known as "certiorari")
  • 5 votes - Required for a majority decision
  • 6 votes - Preferred for a strong, decisive ruling

Justices aren't playing games. They typically won't take up a case unless they're reasonably confident they have enough votes to rule in their preferred direction. This makes the current situation genuinely suspenseful.

What Could Happen Next?

Two major scenarios loom before us:

Scenario 1: The Court Steps In

If the Supreme Court decides to hear the case, we could see swift action that finally ends the confusing patchwork of concealed carry regulations across different states. This would provide clarity for gun owners, law enforcement, and state legislators alike.

Many states have already signaled support for this Hawaii case, showing how high the stakes are for everyone involved.

Scenario 2: The Court Passes

If the justices decline to hear the case? That's actually a powerful message too. It would effectively tell lower courts and state legislatures: "Keep doing what you're doing." This could entrench the current legal gridlock and state-by-state variations for years to come.

Either way, the implications are massive for your Second Amendment rights, regardless of which side of the debate you fall on.

The Historical Context

It's worth noting that historically, landmark Second Amendment rulings have always generated as much polarization as clarity. From Heller to McDonald, these decisions tend to clarify some questions while spawning entirely new legal battles.

This case will likely follow the same pattern. Even a definitive ruling might spark fresh challenges and interpretations.

Why You Should Care

This isn't just a legal curiosity. The Court's decision - or non-decision - will have practical impacts on:

  • Your ability to legally carry a concealed weapon across state lines
  • How states can regulate firearms going forward
  • The balance of power between federal courts and state legislatures

We're in a waiting game with potentially massive consequences. The Supreme Court's grant of review remains unpredictable, especially since this case is at a preliminary stage.

What happens next could reshape gun rights in America for decades. Whether you're a gun owner, concerned about public safety, or just interested in constitutional questions, this is one legal battle worth watching closely.

TLDR

The outcome of Hawaii’s concealed carry case—and the rare unity between the DOJ, Trump administration, and 25 states—could force a Supreme Court reckoning on public carry rights, with ripple effects for states coast to coast.

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